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The system's best point is that it is fully customizable. We can build out tables and form scripts...

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Director

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Raintree Systems is okay for a practice management system. It is just clunky. It is better than...

Sep 2024
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We would like Raintree Systems to focus on making their ledger layout easier for end users to read...

Sep 2024
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Operations, Product

Raintree Systems doesn't include all of their data in their releases when we are doing upgrades....

Sep 2024
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Director

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When the vendor's founder was there, the vendor absolutely kept their promises. However, they sold...

Sep 2024
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Director

Value

Within our EMR system, we pay for an addition through Raintree Systems so that instead of us having...

Aug 2024
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Director

Loyalty, Relationship, Product

Raintree Systems has really focused in the past couple of years on being more innovative and making...

Aug 2024
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Director

Loyalty, Product

The product is very user friendly. I have been able to use it, and I haven't had any issues. Our...

Aug 2024
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Director

Relationship

I really appreciate the support that Raintree Systems provides. I have a contact I talk to regularly...

Aug 2024
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Director

Loyalty

We wanted to integrate certain vendors' products with Raintree Systems' solution. Raintree Systems...

Aug 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship, Product

Sometimes Raintree Systems is slow to listen and respond to what is going on in the industry, so...

Jul 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

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Raintree Systems will definitely listen to us. At least I have a great customer service manager who...

Jul 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship

Lately with Raintree Systems, some of their guidance has not come in a timely manner. Things that...

Jul 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Value

My recommendation of Raintree Systems' product is based on cost. There are certainly better things...

Jul 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

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It helps if the primary contact at an organization knows about programming and some of that kind of...

Jul 2024
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COO

Relationship

When I call someone on the executive team, they do respond to me. I have had numerous interactions...

Jun 2024
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COO

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Raintree Systems’ support team doesn't get back to us that fast. They are not proactive with...

Jun 2024
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COO

Product

Both the front end and back end of the solution are clunky. There are too many steps. It is not as...

Jun 2024
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COO

Loyalty, Relationship

I would probably buy from Raintree Systems again because they are getting better. There are a lot of...

Jun 2024
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COO

Loyalty, Operations, Product

Raintree Systems is working on making their product better, and it is definitely getting better. The...

Jun 2024
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COO

Product

In today's day and age, we need to be able to offer online scheduling, but online scheduling is...

Jun 2024
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COO

Operations, Value

We have to pay for training. I don't like that training is not included. The trainings are good, and...

Jun 2024
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COO

Value

Raintree Systems didn't tell us about a lot of the features used for integration, and that is why we...

Jun 2024
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COO

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Raintree Systems doesn’t keep all their promises with timing. They say things will be done in a...

Jun 2024
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COO

Value

Raintree Systems charges for every little thing. They are expensive and we have to pay for...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Product

I would like to have a space for goals within the Raintree Systems solution so that we don't have to...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Relationship

The Raintree Systems hotline for customer support is wonderful. The tier-one support team does a...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Value

Whenever we want to make a change in Raintree Systems because insurance companies are asking for...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Product

Raintree Systems will just throw upgrades out there. I am sure there is a resource somewhere that...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Loyalty, Product

Raintree Systems is a good mix for therapists who have applied behavior analysis (ABA) therapy and...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Operations

Even at the beginning, there wasn't a lot of hands-on training from Raintree Systems. They just...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Product

Raintree Systems works. It is pretty easy and self-explanatory to use. It does what it needs to do,...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Value

Getting the compliance that insurance companies are looking for takes extra money because Raintree...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Relationship, Product

Raintree Systems has been more consistent in updating their road map, but their road map is becoming...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Relationship, Value

Before the previous CEO of Raintree Systems passed away, he was very involved in the vendor's...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Product

Raintree Systems isn't a bad program. However, it has a lot of options, and some of those options...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Relationship

Our customer relations representative is amazing. They keep in constant contact with us. That person...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Relationship

There was a really big culture shift at Raintree Systems about two years ago. The original owner...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Loyalty, Relationship

We are considering leaving Raintree Systems' product due to a lack of support from the vendor and...

Jun 2024
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Manager

Value

We have noticed that Raintree Systems is moving into a bit more of a fee-for-service model....

Jun 2024
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Manager

Value

Raintree Systems would have to make a lot of changes to their internal company policy for us to feel...

Jun 2024
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Director

Value

It seems like Raintree Systems charges us anytime that we need something, especially if we need...

May 2024
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Director

Relationship, Operations

The vendor is slow with some things, especially when delivering upgrades. They will tell us about...

May 2024
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Director

Loyalty, Relationship

Our time with Raintree Systems seems to be going well. I don't know whether there have been many...

May 2024
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Director

Operations

The vendor will include training in our calls every so often. That training allows us to learn...

May 2024
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Director

Relationship

There is a group that gives Raintree Systems feedback on the product. I can't say exactly what that...

May 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Value

Sometimes Raintree Systems avoids charging for every little thing, but every time we have put in a...

May 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product

We would like to be able to attach documentation to our claims when they go out of our system and...

May 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations, Product

Once a user figures out how everything works in the system, it is pretty user friendly. The ease of...

May 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Value

Raintree Systems has changed moderately. We are an enterprise customer with them, and previously, we...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Product

Raintree Systems is promising a lot of updates, and we haven't seen them yet. Their tool is good,...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Relationship

Raintree Systems is really good at support. They are fast, and we get to the right person pretty...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Product, Value

Raintree Systems is really good. I would recommend them. Compared to the other options out there,...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Loyalty, Product

Raintree Systems really needs to update their user interface and their GUIs to be more modern as...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Loyalty, Product

This is on the road map, but Raintree Systems should improve their BI tools, especially for...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Relationship

Raintree Systems just had TherapyCon. The odd part of TherapyCon was that Raintree Systems was the...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Relationship, Operations

I have a custom enterprise development team. When there is a service-pack update, Raintree Systems...

Apr 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Loyalty, Relationship

Raintree Systems has changed their leadership quite a bit. They had to pick a venture capital...

Apr 2024
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Manager

Product

We have really tried to work out a lot of bugs in the system's back office and billing areas, and...

Apr 2024
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Manager

Operations, Value

The training that the vendor provides is fine, but Raintree Systems tries to charge for things that...

Apr 2024
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Manager

Value

Raintree Systems added a phone call component for patients who may not have been paying their bills....

Apr 2024
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Manager

Loyalty

Raintree Systems was the most compatible and well-rounded system for our business at the time that...

Apr 2024
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Manager

Operations

There are long waits to get things fixed. When we are setting new features up, they are often not...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Operations

At TherapyCon, a lot of companies knew things I didn't because I was not on the implementation team....

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Operations

There is no training for upgrades that the vendor makes to Raintree Systems. We have asked for extra...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Culture, Value

I like Raintree Systems although it is not super user friendly. It can do amazing things; however,...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Product

We have been able to do some custom build-outs with integration.

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Loyalty

Raintree Systems has a ton of à la carte things that could be better organized. We don't know what...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship

The support is hit or miss depending on who we get. It is not consistent by any means. We frequently...

Apr 2024
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Director

Operations

The system is not hard to use once people know how to use it, but training to use it is hard. The...

Apr 2024
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Director

Operations, Product

When Raintree Systems has new releases, the bugs usually aren't worked out, even by the time things...

Apr 2024
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Director

Product

From a front desk standpoint, Raintree Systems is pretty easy to use, with a lot of drag-and-drop...

Apr 2024
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Manager

Operations

The training and support during the implementation were helpful. We have worked with Raintree...

Apr 2024
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Director

Product

The reports that Raintree Systems generates are long and overly verbose. There is no way to narrow...

Apr 2024
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Director

Operations

When training someone new on Raintree Systems, one of our staff just sits down with them and shows...

Apr 2024
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Director

Loyalty, Product

We are a physical therapy office, and we have a few providers that are using Raintree Systems. We...

Apr 2024
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Director

Relationship

My experience with the Raintree Systems support team is calling and leaving a message, and it takes...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Operations

The training in the beginning was pretty terrible. There were a couple of role changes in the...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship, Product

It feels like once every quarter, we have issues with information not being sent out of the product,...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship

When I give Raintree Systems feedback, their responses are not direct. They are very vague. They...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship, Product

It almost feels like Raintree Systems is an IT company that makes healthcare products. They don't...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Product

We run a payroll system for some clinical staff in the EMR, and that system is based on some of...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Culture, Loyalty

Raintree Systems could back off on the overpromising because they have a good sales team and they...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Value

There are already products out there that the vendor will not integrate things with because I assume...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Culture, Relationship

I don't have an account representative that I can just have a conversation with at Raintree Systems....

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Operations, Product

One of the things I love about Raintree Systems is if there is a data point in the EMR, there is a...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Value

The vendor is really good at adding forms or anything we need for billing purposes. It seems like on...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Product

If Raintree Systems gave the product a facelift, that would be useful. That seems like a silly...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Operations

We really need Raintree Systems’ help with a couple of things, like better training and best...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship

It is hard to get complete solutions from Raintree Systems, even though the response times are...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Loyalty

We are not sure whether Raintree Systems is part of our long-term plans because they don't have an...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship, Product

We don't trust Raintree Systems’ reporting very much. It seems like we run a report and get a...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship

The vendor’s support team responds really quickly, and that is nice. The vendor recently updated the...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Culture, Relationship

Raintree Systems rolled out a few new products recently, including a new kiosk and stuff for their...

Apr 2024
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CEO/President

Product

In Raintree Systems, I can't track the clinical outcomes in any meaningful way. But my billers like...

Apr 2024
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Manager

Culture, Value

We added a program to our system, but we had to buy that program from the vendor instead of having...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Relationship

When we submit cases to the vendor's support people, we assign priority levels to the cases. Some of...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Culture, Relationship

Raintree Systems doesn't keep their promises when it comes to the timelines that they say they are...

Mar 2024
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Culture, Operations, Value

When I needed to add something simple to the system, Raintree Systems told me that they were going...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Product, Value

Raintree Systems has been a great tool for us. We are a specialty facility, so we have trouble...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Relationship

Raintree Systems needs to work on their customer service piece. Over the last year, something has...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Loyalty

A lot of things from Raintree Systems are getting better. From Raintree Systems' conferences, it...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Product

Our therapists work on the road, so if there were an app from Raintree Systems that they could use...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Relationship

We wanted the vendor to do a rediscovery to assess our billing and intake. Since we were an...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Operations

The implementation team members we got from Raintree Systems were phenomenal. They were super...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Loyalty, Relationship, Product

There seem to be a lot of great changes coming up with Raintree Systems. I'm pretty involved in all...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Value

We have been using Raintree Systems for a long time, and they recently had a lot of internal...

Mar 2024
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Manager

Relationship

The customer service side of Raintree Systems has been frustrating in terms of their customer...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Operations

The implementation was disorganized. When we implement new things, we need a clear guide, but we...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Product

The customization of the product is awesome. The system is doing some fairly complicated things, and...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Operations, Product

The vendor could improve some of their patient outreach stuff, but overall, the product does what...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship

The reaction time is really good with Raintree Systems. However, what brings the level down is that...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Loyalty, Operations

People are going to love the product after the first six months, but they are going to be miserable...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Product

Raintree Systems needs to hear that what users really want are micro improvements in efficiency, not...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations, Product

To this day, we cannot seem to figure out the hierarchical system of Raintree Systems' tables, so...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product

We were not prepared for how Raintree Systems would integrate billing into daily notes. We have come...

Mar 2024
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COO

Loyalty

We initially chose Raintree Systems for our personalized therapy services, attracted by the promise...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship

The help portal is good in that it creates the ticket, and we can track it, but we have come to...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations

While we loved our implementation team, we are a large company, and all training was done online...

Mar 2024
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Director

Relationship

We are concerned with the trajectory of Raintree Systems. Things have really changed with regard to...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Product

There are a lot of nuances to medical billing, especially in rehab, between limits with units,...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Product

For some insurances, we can't bill more than four manual therapy units. We have physical and...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Product

Our staff refers to the screens and things for Raintree Systems as being busy and very clicky. There...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship, Operations

Raintree has a very big team. Their process was very systematic, and we had regular face-to-face...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Operations

We had a team of superusers on our end who initially started the training with Raintree Systems and...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Product

Raintree Systems integrates with our EMR system, the billing system, and the clearinghouse. Also, it...

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CEO/President

Product, Value

People who are younger seem to catch on really well to the product. Our young staff love Raintree Systems....

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CEO/President

Relationship, Operations

Raintree Systems needs to be more accessible to all staff. Right now, the system is set up so that...

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CEO/President

Relationship

Communication has been really strong with Raintree Systems, but I always think that the higher...

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CEO/President

Product

We have a good ability to get reports and data here, but there are definitely some challenges with...

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CEO/President

Value

Raintree Systems is probably one of the most expensive systems, but I can already see the difference...

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Manager

Operations

Most EMRs have training videos for new users, but this one does not. Customer service is slow, and...

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Director

Operations

The vendor's training was very intense before we were even using the system. By the time we started...

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Director

Operations

Our biggest complaint is about the implementation. The first year with the product was extremely...

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Director

Loyalty, Product

As our company grew, we outgrew our old vendor. We were happy with some things Raintree Systems had...

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Director

Operations

For our billing team, the ledger has been the most complicated piece of the product to learn in...

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Director

Relationship

When I put in a ticket with the vendor's support team, they are extremely responsive and answer...

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Manager

Product

The system requires a lot of clicks to get anything done during clinical usage or scheduling. The...

Mar 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship, Operations

Raintree Systems is not an intuitive system, but once a user learns how to use the system, it is...

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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations

Since we have been a part of Raintree Systems, we have had constant issues, from the the...

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CEO/President

Value

Raintree Systems has always felt like a system meant for therapists but that was built by and for...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Loyalty, Product

The new HTML version of Raintree Systems looks great. It is not different enough from the client...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship

I like the access I have to call Raintree Systems and get a subject matter expert, like a programmer...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations

What we like the most about Raintree Systems is how very configurable it is. It respects the users...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship, Value

Lately, since Raintree Systems was acquired by a venture capital company, we have noticed a drop in...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Loyalty, Relationship

We have noticed a general drop in the level of customer service we get since the acquisition. It...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Loyalty, Product

We are still on the Windows client version of Raintree Systems because last time I checked, the...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations, Product

New users who come to work for us are intimidated by the interface of Raintree Systems, especially...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product

We had to build our own notes for a couple of different branches because Raintree Systems doesn’t...

Mar 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Product

Raintree Systems is an IT solution, and it is running in the background, so we don’t have to be...

Mar 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Product

The strength of the program is its integration with the billing piece and how quickly and seamlessly...

Mar 2024
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VP/Other Executive

Loyalty

We are hoping that Raintree will improve their product, and if not, we will probably make a change...

Mar 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship

I don't think that I have ever had anything alerting me of problems. The vendor just says what is in...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Value

Raintree Systems charges for everything. They want to charge us even for something like a simple...

Feb 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship

When I work with individuals who are in charge of the sections that I'm reporting on, they are...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Operations, Product

Raintree Systems has a lot of upgrades. I would like to see more education on the content and the...

Feb 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product

I like that the product has a lot of functions from billing to customer relationship management to...

Feb 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations, Product

The system works well if we really know it well and know how to seek information, but in terms of...

Feb 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product

The reports are not the easiest to run. The reports pull from a lot of data from a few different...

Feb 2024
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product

The texting limits that the vendor has are kind of arbitrary. We get charged if we go over the...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Loyalty, Product

Raintree Systems integrates with authorizations and stuff. I would like to see a huge enhancement to...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Operations

I have been on Raintree Systems for a long time, so my personal opinion is that it is pretty easy to...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Relationship

The problem with Raintree Systems’ support is that the vendor does not have knowledgeable people in...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Relationship

I have the name of a person I go to in order to get something done. We had a contact person at...

Feb 2024
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Manager

Value

Raintree Systems is our sole source for EMR billing, reporting, and everything else. I'm a diehard...

Feb 2024
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CEO/President

Culture, Value

Raintree Systems just switched to a new system for invoicing and payments for custom projects....

Feb 2024
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CEO/President

Operations, Product

The design and the user interface could be improved. I do a little session with our providers after...

Feb 2024
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CEO/President

Loyalty, Product

We have an HL7 integration with an instance of an EHR at a healthcare system. I would like to take...

Feb 2024
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CEO/President

Relationship

Raintree Systems doesn’t reach out about day-to-day activities, workflows, and things like that. But...

Feb 2024
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CEO/President

Culture, Value

The billing structure is pretty straightforward, but when I look at how much we pay monthly for an...

Feb 2024
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CEO/President

Product, Value

We are overall super happy with Raintree Systems. When we compare them to other companies that do...

Feb 2024
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Director

Operations

Raintree Systems could work on the consistency and format of their training. The system's new...

Feb 2024
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Director

Product, Value

Raintree Systems doesn't integrate with our preferred scheduling solution. Raintree Systems also...

Feb 2024
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Director

Product

Raintree Systems could make the system more intuitive by providing consistent functionalities with...

Feb 2024
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Director

Relationship

Raintree Systems could reach out to us more to let us know about known issues caused by software...

Feb 2024
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Director

Relationship

We have seen a lack of proactive measures from the vendor. Raintree Systems is extremely reactive,...

Feb 2024
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Director

Loyalty, Relationship

We have not been very pleased with Raintree Systems in the last little while. They have made a good...

Jan 2024
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Director

Operations

The Raintree Systems’ knowledge base is somewhat user friendly, but we have to know exactly what we...

Jan 2024
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Director

Operations, Product

The product is pretty user friendly, and that is why I would still buy it today. It is super easy to...

Jan 2024
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Director

Culture, Loyalty

There are some up-and-coming products out there that are going to be useful for clinicians to use,...

Jan 2024
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Director

Value

Lately, there have been a lot of additional charges from Raintree Systems to get things done. If we...

Jan 2024
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Director

Product

The patient portal in Raintree Systems is not very user friendly, and the first thing that the...

Jan 2024
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Director

Operations

As we were going through the training during the onboarding process, we asked a lot of questions....

Dec 2023
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Director

Operations

The training was awful and very difficult to follow. The vendor would only let a few of us do the...

Dec 2023
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Director

Relationship

Raintree Systems is never proactive. They are always trying to clean up after the fact. A few people...

Dec 2023
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Director

Relationship

We have been in contact with Raintree Systems' top-level folks, and they all make promises of...

Dec 2023
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Director

Culture, Operations

Based solely on the product, what we have been able to do with it so far, and where we came from, we...

Dec 2023
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Director

Operations

Initially for the onboarding process, we were told a certain time frame of when we would be able to...

Dec 2023
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Director

Relationship

Raintree Systems' support is awful. We are very patient people, but the vendor's support service has...

Dec 2023
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Director

Loyalty, Value

The system's capabilities are incredible. Before, we had a very cut-and-dry, old-school system that...

Dec 2023
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Director

Relationship, Product

When little glitches or things happen, it would be way better if we could actually get support...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Relationship

More recently, Raintree Systems has been quicker to pick up the phone and call after we put in a...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Loyalty

Initially, it felt like Raintree Systems was a mom-and-pop operation, but now it is moving to be...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Operations

When Raintree Systems does an upgrade, we get a PDF of the changes they are making, and I would...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Operations, Product

Raintree Systems has a feature where we have something that is like Google for the system. We can...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Relationship, Operations, Product

The Raintree Systems platform is pretty good, and it is pretty easy to teach to someone else. It is...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Loyalty, Product

Raintree Systems is not easy to customize to a practice's specific needs. For example, we are a...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Value

The cost for adding templates that some of our clinicians want in Raintree Systems seems really...

Dec 2023
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Manager

Relationship

When I put in a service ticket with Raintree Systems and get a response, sometimes I don’t even...

Dec 2023
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Director

Relationship

I have been really satisfied with Raintree Systems. I think their customer service team has been...

Nov 2023
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Director

Product

Raintree systems is very intuitive, and I really like the BI that they use. It has been really...

Nov 2023
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Analyst/Coordinator

Relationship

Because of the customer service, I would not choose to buy the product again. It takes the vendor a...

Nov 2023
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Analyst/Coordinator

Operations, Product

My overall experience using Raintree Systems has been good. It was good for the most part until the...

Nov 2023
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Analyst/Coordinator

Value

I guess the organization feels like they are getting their money's worth. Raintree Systems is doing...

Nov 2023
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Analyst/Coordinator

Product, Value

Raintree Systems is a good product. I would recommend it so a company could get a feel of it to see...

Nov 2023
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