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Health Catalyst has supported us during COVID-19 very well. They have been there for us. We are a...

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Our technical engineer is fantastic. The engineer tells us when they are upgrading the product. The......

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We love the people at Health Catalyst; they are the best. Health Catalyst is the nicest, most...

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Anytime we have questions, my support person responds within 30 seconds. That individual stayed up......

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Health Catalyst is a wonderful company to work with. They spend a lot of money on innovation. That......

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Health Catalyst Data Operating System is perfect for healthcare organizations that don't already...

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Health Catalyst brought us new options, and although they have new things that people like, the...

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An improvement I would like to have is the ability to have a true historical look back. We cannot...

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The consulting fees are more than we had hoped for. Once the system is up and running, then the...

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The Health Catalyst system has a great data mapping tool that will be fantastic, but it wasn’t...

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When we have issues, they don’t get resolved in as timely of a fashion as we would think. And with......

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Health Catalyst locally houses data marts, but then they stream our EMR and other systems in to...

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We aren't using everything we have bought. We are paying for more than we are using. I would...

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I would give the vendor a perfect score for support during COVID-19. They have been great. The...

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Health Catalyst is better than any of their competitors at driving outcomes. They strongly...

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Director

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The current product functionality is meeting my needs considering that I live in the system every...

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The leadership in our information services department sees the solution as part of our future. I...

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With the new systems behind the scenes with the DOS, the vendor is very proactive, and there is a...

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Health Catalyst could probably do better with ongoing training. Their initial training when they...

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We haven't used the product much lately, mainly because the vendor's focus seems to be hospitals,...

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Director

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Health Catalyst's training is very thorough. Their development is quick, and we get things as they......

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Between Health Catalyst Data Operating System and Health Catalyst's population health took, Health......

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Director

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We still have occasional load failures with Health Catalyst Data Operating System. We have to...

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The vendor is very skilled in creating the software products that we need. They are forward thinking.......

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I would tell others that the vendor listens to our needs. They have delivered on what we have...

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Director

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Health Catalyst is very responsive. They are not perfect and never claim to be, but they are honest......

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Director

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Sometimes the updates from Health Catalyst Data Operating System are pushed through too soon. I...

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Health Catalyst has an amazing suite that they are anxious to continue expanding on. We have failed......

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Through the COVID-19 crisis, Health Catalyst has proactively reached out to us to explain their...

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CMO

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I don't know whether the downfall of the training was caused by us or Health Catalyst, but the scale......

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CEO/President

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There is a bit of a learning curve with the amount of clinical data that we are throwing into the...

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There are a lot of things that we have suggested to make the system easier to use, and Health...

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The vendor is so dedicated to customer service, but when I look at the overall deliverables, the...

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We are preparing to terminate our partnership with Health Catalyst. Our relationship hasn’t been...

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When we are bringing in claims feeds, we need to put a lot of focus on reconciliation and properly......

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The vendor’s customer service and willingness to work and be a partner with our customers are very......

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Something that was disappointing to me when I got under the hood of the product was that the...

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CIO

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The vendor's implementation was extremely strong; they have been a really great partner. They bring......

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The vendor has had releases for new technologies and components. We haven't adopted all of them, but......

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CIO

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The outcomes from the product just depend on what we want to focus on as an organization. Getting...

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CIO

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In terms of the system functioning the way it was promised to function, the business has changed a......

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The system integrates extremely well. The system has to be able to integrate, interoperate, and send......

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

We use Health Catalyst Data Operating System for many things, including the development of an...

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VP/Other Executive

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Dealing with the people at Health Catalyst is a pleasure. They are humble in the way they use their......

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VP/Other Executive

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Health Catalyst has an analytics summit each year to support their users. Before the summit, Health......

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VP/Other Executive

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I would love to see a more defined road map of the next two to three years for Health Catalyst Data......

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VP/Other Executive

Implementation and Training

The vendor was very good at the implementation and upgrade portion of their business, and the...

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The vendor's support is great. Support is one of the things that the vendor does right, especially......

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VP/Other Executive

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A year from now, my satisfaction will hold steady. I don't expect to see any scores drop. Given what......

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VP/Other Executive

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I would not buy the solution again, knowing what I know today. We would probably still invest in the......

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

Health Catalyst definitely has a dedicated group of people. I give them a lot of credit for jumping......

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

If I had to list the key functions that the vendor is providing for us, those would be hosting our......

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VP/Other Executive

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The Community Care product didn't work. We didn't even let it out the door. We did a ton of work on......

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

The vendor's application came with some canned measures. Health Catalyst excels at being flexible...

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

The trouble with me is that I am old school. I know how to make sense of data. Organizations have to......

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

The product has given us the ability to get data to measure ourselves. That is the outcome. We have......

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VP/Other Executive

ROI / Cost (care and feeding)

Health Catalyst is a little pricey. But they are eating the cost for another product that we have,......

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VP/Other Executive

Relationship

The vendor executive involvement is surprisingly high from Health Catalyst. We had an issue with a......

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VP/Other Executive

Future Outlook

We have a duplicate Health Catalyst structure for the hospital, and we have created a separate,...

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VP/Other Executive

Other Observations & Comments

Health Catalyst's strength is on the warehouse side. What they have done on the back end continues......

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CMIO

Service and Support

Health Catalyst's system has stayed pretty stable. The vendor has been communicative with us during......

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CMIO

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Health Catalyst's system has gotten expensive. It always was, but it continues to be expensive.

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CMIO

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Overall, Health Catalyst is doing very well. We are philosophically aligned with the company and...

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CIO

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I just sat through an update on our training program, and the knowledge and discourse coming out of......

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CIO

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I would definitely recommend Health Catalyst. They are one of my top-three vendors, and I don’t...

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CIO

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It is a work in progress to go from a private, start-up company to being a publicly traded company.......

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Director

Service and Support

The vendor needs to have a little more consistency in how they train and vet their support people.......

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Director

Implementation and Training

The people from Health Catalyst who did the training for our staff were great.

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Director

Technology

The new technology that Health Catalyst has produced is lacking when it comes to mobile platforms.......

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VP/Other Executive

Relationship

When we started working with Health Catalyst, I liked that they were a privately held company. They......

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VP/Other Executive

Functionality and Upgrades

On the services side, Health Catalyst is still a small operation, and their commitments are often...

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Manager

Implementation and Training

The implementation with Health Catalyst was just a lot at once. Now that we have been with them for......

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Manager

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Health Catalyst’s naming conventions could be improved. They make terminology and then don’t use it.......

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Manager

Lessons Learned

We thought that Health Catalyst would have a lot of their data sources mapped, but they didn’t. We......

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Manager

Service and Support

Health Catalyst's service is pretty good. We have dedicated people assigned to us. We have a couple......

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Manager

Functionality and Upgrades

Health Catalyst's system is our data warehouse, and it has been very successful so far. We are...

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Manager

ROI / Cost (care and feeding)

I can see where we could get charged for additional things with Health Catalyst. Sometimes there are......

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Director

Other Observations & Comments

We use DOS. We are moving to a hosted cloud environment with Microsoft Azure software. I know...

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Director

Service and Support

When it comes to the COVID-19 crisis, Health Catalyst was building specific tools to help their...

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Director

Other Observations & Comments

Health Catalyst basically has a subscription model. That is their preferred model, so as they...

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Director

Service and Support

I think Health Catalyst has become less focused on their tool set and more focused on their services......

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Director

Relationship

I don’t come across companies very often that really walk the walk of their mission, but I truly...

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Director

Functionality and Upgrades

The platform lacks some of the ability to provide all the analytics that we want. The product isn't......

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Director

Functionality and Upgrades

We found a number of significant issues related to the platform during the implementation and...

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Director

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We haven't seen the promised monetary outcomes we thought would come with the product. We aren't...

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Director

Service and Support

We continue to have significant issues related to follow-through with the Health Catalyst team.

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Director

Relationship

The initial training from the vendor was very good. There really isn't any ongoing training, so we......

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Director

Future Outlook

The platform is very strong and flexible. The typical end user is someone with technical skills...

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Manager

Other Observations & Comments

We are installing a different vendor's product. It was recommended that we get an enterprise data...

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Manager

Relationship

Health Catalyst most certainly keeps their promises. The vendor is wonderful to work with and very......

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Manager

ROI / Cost (care and feeding)

The pricing is set. Health Catalyst offers a different contract for less money, but we haven't taken......

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Manager

Implementation and Training

There is a lot of online training. We don't use trainers in an online classroom. We have two point......

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Manager

Relationship

No one is perfect, but Health Catalyst stays with us and is available. We can call or email some of......

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Manager

Interfacing and Integration

Health Catalyst is known as an outcomes company. They drive tangible outcomes. We have picked up on......

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Manager

Functionality and Upgrades

We think the world of Health Catalyst. They are awesome. Their implementations are stellar. The...

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Manager

Functionality and Upgrades

We have to be super technical to go into the system and query it. Not just anyone can go into the...

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Overall, I am as pleased as I have ever been with the vendor’s product. It is definitely not...

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Relationship

The vendor has been very responsive during the COVID-19 crisis. I give them high marks. The vendor......

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Manager

Functionality and Upgrades

I believe we are on the current version of the product. We have recently made some conscious efforts......

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ROI / Cost (care and feeding)

The vendor is very flexible and accommodating with contract terms. They don’t charge a la carte like......

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Manager

Functionality and Upgrades

The product has so much functionality that we simply haven’t had the time or energy to tap into. We......

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Manager

Relationship

The vendor’s executive involvement has been amazing, and the vendor has absolutely driven tangible......

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Future Outlook

Things in the technology world can be very good, but there will always be one or two flaws that keep......

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Manager

Functionality and Upgrades

The vendor could provide slightly more intuitive user interfaces. That is something that everyone...

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Manager

Service and Support

The vendor is very good with their service, but in terms of proactivity, they could detect problems......

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Relationship

The vendor gets incredibly high marks for their personalization of services. We have always felt...

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CEO/President

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The product is not really doing much in relation to our integration goals other than allowing me to......

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CEO/President

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I am pleased with the product quality. The product needs to have different levels of analysis. The......

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CEO/President

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The ease of use is good, but the system is not that intuitive. Things are loaded in and are coded...

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CEO/President

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There needs to be a more patient-centric view with the system so that we can understand the causes......

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Director

Service and Support

We have been getting consistent user support, and Health Catalyst always believes that the...

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Director

Technology

Health Catalyst does support our interoperability goals at the data level because that is how we...

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Director

Relationship

The vendor executives are pretty open. There were times when we had them come in and give their...

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Director

Functionality and Upgrades

Everything Health Catalyst has made for us has been excellent, like dashboards. And all we have done......

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Director

Functionality and Upgrades

The system’s ease of use has been fantastic for us. Health Catalyst’s has been pretty good about...

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Director

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Health Catalyst is very responsive. They have been great to work with, and they are just good...

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Health Catalyst has been very good about keeping some of us involved in their education platforms.......

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