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InterSystems has a great team, and they support their customers well. I don't have anything negative...

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TrakCare EPR is easy to use and configure. We like that it allows us to manage all phases of...

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We have received good support from InterSystems. Their productivity is high. The vendor's support is...

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TrakCare EPR is a really good, stable product. It has most of the functionality that we require. We...

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Whenever InterSystems has a new solution available, they provide us with the release notes. They...

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We have a reasonable support and maintenance contract. The vendor tends to be flexible with charges.

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TrakCare EPR is expensive for us. There are small charges here and there, and that is something that...

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InterSystems started off really systematically. We had a set protocol for how to implement and get...

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InterSystems keeps most of their promises. Sometimes, there are delays on InterSystems' side, but...

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Whenever InterSystems delivers any new functionality, their QA process seems to be flawed. They...

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The support has been much better than it was last year. InterSystems has a new support manager. In...

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Sometimes InterSystems adds extra charges to our bill, and we have to negotiate with them. The...

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InterSystems' people seem to constantly change roles within their organization. We may have a...

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The upgrades to TrakCare EPR that we have delivered so far have been well received. Those upgrades...

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InterSystems does a fair amount of work to advertise the system's new functionality. They recently...

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TrakCare EPR's integration is getting a lot better. We are very happy with it. Once we got over the...

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Our main challenge with interoperability is InterSystems' inability to connect their two main...

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We have a degree of excitement about the product and the product suite. We have managed to hold onto...

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There is a difference between the current user profile within our facility and another profile that...

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InterSystems is pretty integral to all that we are doing. Part of the challenge is the widespread...

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There is growing evidence that the national COVID-19 response applications are being built in some...

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One strength of the system is its reliability. It has a user interface that has been consistent over...

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We are actually more impressed than we have been in the past. We have a good working relationship...

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We have a fairly open working relationship with InterSystems, and we have let them know the good...

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InterSystems is going to support us and our customers better. The vendor is more responsive to our...

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We are implementing a change program aligned to our business. The change program was probably 60% us...

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The product is fine. We have done our due diligence with it, and we believe it will do what we want...

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Director

We have taken the approach that if TrakCare EPR can do something, we let the system do it. For us,...

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Director

We are looking at adopting some handheld devices to help the nursing staff record things like basic...

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Director

We have started using one of InterSystems' newer programs, and that has gone exceptionally well. We...

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Director

The content of InterSystems' training is alright, but we haven't actually received very much...

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Director

Hopefully, our satisfaction will go up in the future. A lot is going to depend on both us and the...

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Manager

In the past, TrakCare EPR has been difficult to customize. It is not an out-of-the-box solution. We...

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Manager

Lately, we haven't had many performance issues with TrakCare EPR. Some parts of the program can work...

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Manager

InterSystems biggest strength is that they have literally been there for us 24/7 to help resolve...

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Manager

I would encourage InterSystems to make sure that they have the resources necessary to meet the local...

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Director

The speed of change can be slow for InterSystems. They need to work on being more proactive. The...

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CMIO

The integration with other systems is good. InterSystems is a market leader, and they do very well.

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CMIO

The support has gradually gotten better and better every year. At the moment, the support is very...

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CMIO

When we went live, my opinion of TrakCare EPR was different. Like with most EPRs, maturity and...

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CMIO

The outpatient module in TrakCare EPR doesn't work very well for us because there is a lot of focus...

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Manager

We plan to do some major patching on TrakCare EPR, and I am hoping that the patches will bring big improvements....

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Manager

InterSystems' training is poor. I wouldn't even call it training; we just do high-level demos.

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Manager

We sometimes wait years for new technology. That is not an exaggeration; it takes a long time for a...

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Manager

I think I would recommend TrakCare EPR, but it is a very complex system, and it could actually be...

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Manager

There have been changes to the product and the organization's support for new development and core...

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Manager

One of the vendor's biggest challenges is working with boards to make the most out of the product....

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Nurse

A stumbling point for TrakCare EPR was that it doesn't have any system for business continuity with...

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Nurse

Over the years as the system has developed, the ability to change it has improved. Sometimes when...

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Nurse

InterSystems doesn't always keep their promises. We were shown the best parts of the system, and...

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Nurse

The vendor’s management structure and interactions with us have changed over the last year. We had...

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Nurse

Integration is one thing we are having a few issues with right now. When we try to upload electronic...

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Nurse

There are a few improvements that could be made to the front end of TrakCare EPR to make it more...

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Nurse

Our program leads interact with the vendor at the executive level. I have been in meetings with the...

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Nurse

TrakCare EPR does drive tangible outcomes. If a friend of mine had a blank check to write for a...

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Nurse

We are using TrakCare EPR alone for some areas, such as labs, referrals, and communication between...

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Nurse

This year, InterSystems changed the icons in TrakCare EPR so that there is actually a COVID-19 icon....

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Manager

Some of the executive managers are contactable and personable. Our personal relationships with...

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Manager

InterSystems has recently undergone a restructure, and the flexibility and partnership we had with...

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Manager

We are cognizant that InterSystems is a business, but I don’t think they charge us for every little...

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Manager

If we have a company that supplies us with a system, InterSystems has a competitive thing. There is...

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Manager

The InterSystems conference last year was a webinar, and it was quite good. Some of the features and...

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Manager

If a health board were looking to start up an electronic system from scratch, InterSystems would be...

Mar 2021
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Manager

InterSystems says the solution is clunky. We have to work alongside what InterSystems delivers. We...

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Manager

When we have a critical problem, InterSystems' support could not be better. InterSystems will be...

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Manager

One of the system's weaknesses is the speed and the rate at which the vendor can come around fixes...

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Manager

It can be difficult to get the vendor to change their product. We get releases with fixes every...

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Manager

InterSystems has very good people, but they never seem to have enough of them. There are...

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Manager

At its core, the product is very integrated, and that has been a real plus for us because there is a...

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Manager

If the clinicians ask for a change that looks as though it is going to be needed across the health...

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Manager

The solution is fairly self-explanatory. We can logically work our way through. However, that is...

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Manager

We have a video conferencing system and have needed a way to capture that information digitally so...

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Manager

If we really need urgent help with something, InterSystems is very good at getting back to us, and...

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Manager

Previously, InterSystems was very good when they had a definite management structure in place, but...

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VP/Other Executive

The end users are PCPs. They see patients in different areas of the hospital. TrakCare EPR is not a...

Mar 2021
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Manager

The implementation was many years ago, but we have had upgrades since then. InterSystems' initial...

Mar 2021
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Manager

TrakCare EPR works as promoted, but we make a lot of changes to it in order to get it to do what we...

Mar 2021
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Manager

The integration is good and pretty smooth. The integration team members are very knowledgeable, and...

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Manager

We haven't really had a huge amount of new technology from InterSystems. I don't think that that has...

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Manager

The individual folks that we work with from InterSystems are excellent. There just aren't enough...

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VP/Other Executive

It is very easy to write down notes about my patients. The system is very user friendly. Our revenue...

Mar 2021
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VP/Other Executive

The support is almost useless. There are usually small things that the vendor teaches the support...

Mar 2021
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CIO

We still have a long way to go with the system. One of the benefits that we saw at the beginning was...

Mar 2021
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CIO

InterSystems could definitely do better with the speed of delivery. The vendor needs to be more...

Mar 2021
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Manager

Our experience with InterSystems has been pretty good. We have had highs and lows, but that is true...

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Manager

InterSystems' support is generally pretty good, but sometimes, their main help desk doesn't...

Mar 2021
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Manager

TrakCare EPR is not the most user-friendly product. It never works right out of the box. We use the...

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Manager

We have our own ensemble and integration team, so we can pull data from TrakCare EPR and send it to...

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Manager

InterSystems could do a better job of working with users when they first start building a new...

Mar 2021
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Manager

InterSystems' management structure has changed. I used to work directly with our service manager. I...

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Manager

We will never be 100% satisfied with a product. We have just started on our journey with this...

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Manager

In general, I have always been very happy with InterSystems as a supplier and a partner. I mostly...

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Manager

I am really happy with the support that we get from InterSystems. They are always reaching out to us...

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CIO

A disadvantage of TrakCare EPR is that it is not a best-of-breed platform where every modality has...

Mar 2021
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CIO

Things with InterSystems are going very well. We have separate diagnostic services which are...

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Manager

I like the user interface of TrakCare EPR a lot. My team has the opportunity to configure the...

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Manager

Training is a difficult area with TrakCare EPR because we can't have a training involved that we can...

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Manager

I think it is fair to say that the system we have doesn’t meet our needs. But that is due to our...

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Manager

Obviously, InterSystems' solution is not cheap, and purchasing something and extending our license...

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CIO

In the past couple of years, the system has become more stable. It is not as quick as it was before,...

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CIO

InterSystems is always helpful. They are responsive and proactive. I am satisfied with their performance....

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CIO

InterSystems doesn't have too much of the latest technology integrated with the system. Hopefully,...

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Manager

We are assessing and looking quite strongly at electronic medication solutions, and TrakCare EPR has...

Mar 2021
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Manager

I wouldn't rule InterSystems for a future purchase, but I would need to assess them because I don't...

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Manager

Something that InterSystems did well recently that they didn't do historically was putting more...

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Manager

The vendor certainly charges for big things. Historically, I would have answered differently, but...

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Manager

TrakCare EPR is capable of supporting our interoperability goals, but InterSystems charges for every...

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Manager

The ease of use with TrakCare EPR is poor. InterSystems recognized that there were some usability...

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Manager

My future satisfaction with TrakCare EPR will be completely dependent on how well InterSystems...

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Director

InterSystems' support and communication are better than they were last year. The vendor has helped...

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Director

The new version of the solution isn't very different. Our favorite thing about the new version is...

Feb 2021
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Director

We have a problem with the vendor's strategy for lab integration because we have to pay an...

Feb 2021
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Director

Things have improved with the implementation and upgrades; things are better than we have seen in...

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Director

There are often surprises, but on the whole, TrakCare EPR does work as promoted. The quality of the...

Dec 2020
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Director

Intersystems' immediate support is usually pretty good. The support has improved in terms of...

Dec 2020
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Director

There is a lot of lip service from the vendor, but there is not much in terms of actual delivery....

Dec 2020
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Director

There are a lot of tangible outcomes from TrakCare EPR. Each upgrade we have had and the work that...

Dec 2020
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Director

I wouldn’t recommend TrakCare EPR in isolation. I would be comparing it to alternatives. My...

Dec 2020
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Director

InterSystems has made efforts to support us during the COVID-19 crisis. They have applied certain...

Dec 2020
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Director

I like to think that in a few years’ time we’re only going to be using TrakCare for admin functions...

Dec 2020
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Director

A recurring theme has been that the support hasn’t been brilliant in terms of the support team's...

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Director

InterSystems does not charge for every little thing, but with some things, there are hidden costs...

Dec 2020
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Director

The main issue we have with TrakCare EPR is the visuals. I want to do vital signs tracking. We want...

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